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« on: December 29, 2006, 12:45:01 AM »

Hey dudes, has anyone attempted to collect all the lore ever posted to this site into a big bundle or wiki or at least into its own forum? Was anything lost as a result of the move or server crash? I think it'd be a shame to let all this go to waste, and as the forums die down a bit it might be nice to make a push to collect everything while everyone's got some energy left to do it.


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2006, 09:09:37 AM »

No, as far as I know, no complete collection of the old forums exist, there are still some stuff being asked for from time to time, which if it survived the crash, lies saved on someones HD. A decent part of the stuff has been uploaded here though.


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2006, 09:40:54 AM »

I had saved a lot of it on my HD, and sent it here for submission. About 80% of it is still waiting for approval though. My HD died along with my PC, however...

I posted most of it here:
http://midnight.sundering.free.fr/index.php?board=2.0


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2006, 05:35:28 PM »

Untrue, about 50% of it requires approval, 80 pieces total. Chris and Todd have a copy of the site DB but we can't get it running, 200Mb MySQL queries are something no server is willing to run, unless it is dedicated, but then the cost is damn high, i am stil going to check with a feiend on how i ca retrieve info from the Db as i want though, but he is on honey moon until the middle of january.

But if the crach had gotten us before this site was made, we probably would not even have an AtS anymore.


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2006, 05:06:03 AM »

Quote from: Nifelhein on December 30, 2006, 05:35:28 PM

That was a subjective measure

Wil, the link i posted will send you to the french Sundering site, which hosts a lot of articles fro the old ATS. Don't worry, the titles are in French, but the content is written in English.

Nif, good luck with the restoration of old ATS, it seems like a hellish enterprise.


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2006, 09:05:15 PM »

I do indeed have a full copy of the old forums, but I stress that that is the forums, not any files or sections. Sections were the bits that you can click on at the left side of the page.

Really wish the guys over at Code Monkey had backed up our stuff and answered the emails.


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2006, 11:18:20 PM »

I was wondering if it would be possible to setup and run a copy of the DB on my own PC, for example, this would easily alow me to salvage whatever threads I watn whenever i need them, how about it, Chri, would that be possible?


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2007, 02:54:25 AM »

actually, yes.

if simple machines forums works on your system, i'll ge teh databse to the point where SMF can import it.


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2007, 08:12:13 AM »

Well, that may be a way of dealing with this then, with some help I am certain i can get this going, even if it takes a few days for my PC to run through the whole 200Mb routines it would be worth it. I take I need MySQL to make it work, but certainly with a friend's help i can get a personal copy of it running. Grin


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2007, 09:09:20 AM »

Tried converting the old database this weekend.

I crashed a server.

Turns out that of the 200mb, a lot of it is posts. Shock! But the problem is, how many of those hundred tables is necessary to convert to SMF? Right around 7. So I'm going to try it again with the slimmed down db.


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2007, 09:30:37 PM »

Well, I can't say i understood all you meant there but i really appreciate all your efforts, let me know any advance (or no advance) you make on this. I am still willing to try and make a self hosted Db for my own use and then post as reference as people ask, since i have this habit of dropping by every post made on the boards i would be a good resource on that myself. Wink


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2007, 10:56:53 PM »

Basically, out of the hundred or so tables inside the old site database, only 7 are necessary to move to SMF. One of the problems was the absolutely gigantic tables for word matching. It would index every single word on the site against every other word for fast searching. Horribly system.

Rumor has it more of the old site survived than I had initially thought. Time will tell. Wink


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2007, 12:20:34 AM »

Sounds promising, man. Glad to hear this is progressing. Makes me happy.

And gives you cookies. Wink


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2007, 05:26:29 AM »

This is really goo to hear indeed! And well, I can't really express hopw I am happy with the new system when compared to the old one...


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2007, 05:37:02 PM »

So... how did it go in this month after crashing the server?
will I will be able to see the wonders of Da Olde Site?


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2007, 05:55:28 PM »

Ah! I knew I was forgetting something, gotta talk with that newly wed friend of mine and see what he thinks about it, or if he knows of a way I can get things out of the DB.


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2007, 06:55:45 PM »

Land Outcast - Iconic Mnemonic Device Wink


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2007, 07:37:09 AM »

I will talk to him today before we have the game started. Thanks for reminding me, I rarely forget this kind of thing, but am glad to have someone point it to me when I do. Wink


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2007, 02:14:18 PM »

Hah. I heard resurrection does not work in the Midnight setting, but "reincarnation" in this new iste? I hope it is one day possible, in memory of hte gems of the old site that I did not save as backup on my computer (truth is, I had saved most content - but my PC died, along with its HD).

Some newcomers might be disappointed though: much "official" material appeared since then , covering what were in those times uncovered topics. So be warned in cas the old forums are one day brought back from oblivion. But it was such a work of love from the fans...


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2007, 02:27:39 PM »

I shall reiterate.

The entirety of the old site, posts, files, everything -- is intact.

We do not have a place to put it, and Todd has not had luck with uploading it anywhere. It's a lot of data. I've offered to help him get the data online but to be perfectly honest I'm not sure what I'd do with it because we don't have a place to put it.


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2007, 05:07:43 PM »

Quote from: Glacialis on February 08, 2007, 02:27:39 PM

We do not have a place to put it...

I'm not sure what I'd do with it because we don't have a place to put it.

Oh... there's nowhere to put it? And what about breaking it into smaller sections? is it possible?
(say, forums + 1/2 material,
and later on forums + second half)


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2007, 11:56:26 AM »

Quote from: Glacialis on February 08, 2007, 02:27:39 PM

We do not have a place to put it, and Todd has not had luck with uploading it anywhere. It's a lot of data. I've offered to help him get the data online but to be perfectly honest I'm not sure what I'd do with it because we don't have a place to put it.

How much data, and what format is it currently in?


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2007, 12:00:46 PM »

SQL export and an archive of the file directory. If I could, I'd put it on a hard drive and mail it to whatever host eventually ends up with the data. It'd be easier.


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Re: Old Site Content

« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2007, 08:12:14 AM »

I have talked with that friend of mine and he believes we can get a good export with his home PC, I am not sure how it will end up yet, being rather stupid with DB things, but I will let you know whatever happens, we scheduled our meeting on this issue for the coming weekend.

keep your fingers crossed everyone! Wink